Is Israel an example of the psychological phenomena of the ‘abused’ becoming the ‘abuser’?
No; it is called self defense. Israel has been under rocker attack for 8 years, and it had time to realize that unless Hamas is dismantled, the attacks will not stop.
It is tragic that many Palestinians who are not directly involved in terrorism are suffering as a result of the actions of their leaders. While no one wants to see any noncombatants harmed, it is important to acknowledge that all Palestinians in Gaza bear some responsibility for their current predicament. After all, they voted to empower Hamas in an election in which they knew the organization’s platform called for the destruction of Israel and the use of terrorism to achieve its aims.
The Palestinians in Gaza have done nothing during the last three years to stop Hamas from launching rockets into Israel. At any time the people could have said, "Enough! We do not support terror." Instead of allowing rocket crews to fire Qassams from their houses, yards, or neighborhoods, the people could have said, "Stop! I will not allow you to make us a target. I will now allow you to use my family as a shield."
For the last three years, the Palestinians of Gaza have said, in effect, "We don’t mind if Israelis are murdered by Hamas rockets, but the world should support us."
During World War II, the German people were not spared suffering from the Allied invasion because they were noncombatants or because some could claim they were not Nazis and did not support Hitler. All the German people were held to account for their failure to stop their leaders from carrying out their aggression and genocidal policies.
The Palestinians now are also being held to account. What is different, however, is that unlike the Allies in World War II, Israel is doing everything possible to avoid hurting Palestinian noncombatants despite their culpability. Even now the Palestinians have the power to stop the war by demanding that Hamas cease firing rockets. Alas, they refuse to take the one step within their power to ease their suffering.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
absolutely.
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October 27th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
ya, Hitler had a point.
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October 27th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
That is an intriguing way to look at the conflict in the middle east. I had never thought of it that way before; thank you!
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October 27th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
And the abused abusing others and then still claims to be the one who’s abused.
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October 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
They are using bombs that rip the flesh off of children. You die a slow, horrible death.
It is worse than a gas chamber.
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October 27th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
No, I don’t think so entirely. There are Jews living all over the world in different countries who have not become abusers, and a lot of them don’t support Israel.
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October 27th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Very much so.
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October 28th, 2009 at 12:28 am
well technically they are more of the abusers becoming more abusive
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October 28th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Yes, the result of years of terrorist attacks against the common population causes people to become numb to suffering. Exposure on TV does the same thing.
It is a situation that terrorism creates.
The topic deserves more rational discussion than can occur on YA.
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October 28th, 2009 at 1:35 am
For years I felt the plight of Israel . They were such an oppressed and abused scattered people.
But now I think you are right .
They may end up in the number one spot with Hitler.
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October 28th, 2009 at 1:55 am
they abused prophets to begin with, they were always the abusers… but I have to admit, there are some who call themselves non-zionists who are good people!
Very enlightening Q!
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October 28th, 2009 at 2:31 am
they are like an alcoholic which never recovers, they are constitutional unable to be honest about themselves. poor israel always the one being abused when in fact they are the abusers. they are the cause of capitalism and the troubles with money.
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October 28th, 2009 at 2:45 am
no israel has a right to exist, Hamas attacked Israel without provaction
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October 28th, 2009 at 3:17 am
The Israeli Army left Gaza in 2005. Now you are feeling sorry for people that danced and cheered after 9/11? Israel gives more aid to Gaza than any of the other Arab countries. The carrot didn’t work so now they are using the stick.
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October 28th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Israel is the abuser that is taking part in a continuous effort to abuse the Palestinians after they stole and abused their lands then their families then they abused them by not giving them food and what not, they are abusing Palestinians to the mother of all abuse including humanitarian abuse. You can’t get any more abused then that and Israel has shown they are the champions of abuse against humans.
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October 28th, 2009 at 4:03 am
yeah! i wonder the mental state of the kids who are seeing and suffering toooooo much violance !this kids are gonna transform into ruthless criminal psychopaths!
we donot even let our small kids see violent cartoons and think about those who are the direct victims of that barbarian.the world needs to stop that war urgently.For christ sake!
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October 28th, 2009 at 4:32 am
God bless you,
yes
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October 28th, 2009 at 4:52 am
it sure does
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October 28th, 2009 at 4:58 am
No; it is called self defense. Israel has been under rocker attack for 8 years, and it had time to realize that unless Hamas is dismantled, the attacks will not stop.
It is tragic that many Palestinians who are not directly involved in terrorism are suffering as a result of the actions of their leaders. While no one wants to see any noncombatants harmed, it is important to acknowledge that all Palestinians in Gaza bear some responsibility for their current predicament. After all, they voted to empower Hamas in an election in which they knew the organization’s platform called for the destruction of Israel and the use of terrorism to achieve its aims.
The Palestinians in Gaza have done nothing during the last three years to stop Hamas from launching rockets into Israel. At any time the people could have said, "Enough! We do not support terror." Instead of allowing rocket crews to fire Qassams from their houses, yards, or neighborhoods, the people could have said, "Stop! I will not allow you to make us a target. I will now allow you to use my family as a shield."
For the last three years, the Palestinians of Gaza have said, in effect, "We don’t mind if Israelis are murdered by Hamas rockets, but the world should support us."
During World War II, the German people were not spared suffering from the Allied invasion because they were noncombatants or because some could claim they were not Nazis and did not support Hitler. All the German people were held to account for their failure to stop their leaders from carrying out their aggression and genocidal policies.
The Palestinians now are also being held to account. What is different, however, is that unlike the Allies in World War II, Israel is doing everything possible to avoid hurting Palestinian noncombatants despite their culpability. Even now the Palestinians have the power to stop the war by demanding that Hamas cease firing rockets. Alas, they refuse to take the one step within their power to ease their suffering.
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October 28th, 2009 at 5:46 am
I think it’s more like the abused awoke and is now paying back.
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October 28th, 2009 at 6:23 am
No. It’s the psychological example of the abused beginning to believe the abusers. The world has picked at Jews & now Israel so much too many Jews fall all for the false images like the one your painting & aren’t standing strong enough to correct all the intense bigotry & falsehoods thrown at us.
When there are USA rallies with people calling for "Jews to go back to the oven", i.e. supporting Hitler’s way of exterminating Jews — you know the abuse is on THAT side of the table. And it rallying hatred, not political truth. Because truth & love of peace doesn’t cause people to call for extermination like they did 60 years ago.
Israel’s actions can be rough, but I don’t see anyone complaining about the genocidial goals of Hamas at JEWS (not just Israelis). Nor the ridulous way Palestinians lie & refuse to form a country or make nice to anyone so they can be adopted by them (eygpt & jordan or even israel) and move on with their lives.
There are PA Arabs who want peace, but the vast majority have bought into all the hate they’ve generated & been sold by their leaders — and now the world is buying to the same hate.
I did my own resource & in every instance when I got down to the bottom, israel behaved reasonably & the media didn’t come close to communicating. And make no mistake, my best sources were Arab. When an Palestinian media for themselves talks about what they are doing — I tend to trust it.
So what you are seeing it the pssychology phenomena of same hate Jews have been expereincing for centuries — and you now have bought into it.
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This kind of garbage is called turnspeak where the real abusers accuse the victims (multiple daily bombing attempts on israeli citizens every day for 5 years) of being the abusers.
We’ve seen it before — in Nazi Germany the Germans did the EXACT SAME thing, as they lead Jews to the chamber they claimed THEIR were being victimized.
When there has been this much hate at a people in the past — it is critical for the world to get morals & assume there’s a good chance they’ll fall for it again.
Palestinians
(which by the way made up their name in 1960’s to fool the world into thinking they’d been there since the Philistines – read a regional paper, before that it was the JEWS called Palestinians).
teach their children violence & your worried about what they see in real life? With the years of Oslo, do you know how crushed Israel was when the Arabs decided to bomb them instead of accepting their over to form a country?
Direct from the ARAB media:
Cartoons for kids:
http://www.pmw.org.il/car/index.html
Hamas using kids in combat support & you wonder why they die:
http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_Jan2009.htm#b130109
Hamas themselves speaking (and tell me it’s not about Jews & THEIR goal to form a regional empire) video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=umlWYGLixPc&feature=related
Another video from Hamas TV
http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_Jan2009.htm#b120109
Snopes on blood libel:
http://www.snopes.com/religion/blood.asp
When you can tell me:
- The ME Arabs aren’t teaching classic Euorpean anti-semtic images any longer (mein kaumf is a best seller)
- And your data didn’t come from anyone who believes that garbage
THEN AND ONLY THEN do you have a right to moral judgement.
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